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What is happening in Anime?
- it seems the Anime people around Jason created a MKV with VP8? and AAC format that is being used in the Anime community
- maybe if WebM had subtitle support and multitrack a/v support, they might move to WebM
What about P2P? ?
- Opera and Firefox want to be able to play p2p video in the video element
- bittorrent alone won't be sufficient - try swift and swarm
- but p2p is a nice solution to publishers that are afraid of getting hit by huge bandwidth use on popular videos
- could be done with adaptive HTTP streaming on chunks
What about DRM and WebM?
- if you want uptake, you need to solve this
- the idea is to allow feeding a video element with data from JavaScript?
- so you can receive encrypted video data from a server, decrypt it (e.g. using WebSockets?), and throw it at the video element
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WebM
Uptake
How can we achieve more uptake of WebM
?
How can WebM
become the baseline code for HTML5??
- achieve universal uptake in all browsers
- standard will follow
How can WebM
get support by Apple?
- support in Safari: use Perian - it's a QuickTime? component that supports
WebM
(at least the latest release) - Perian will also create support for iMovie
- Apple is moving away from QuickTime? components and QuickTime? 10 doesn't allow components - fortunately enough software relies on components, so they won't go away quickly
- on iPod and iPad, it will be impossible to provide plugins, since they don't use quicktime framework
- VLC has WebM support on iPad (but you need to put .avi ending onto the files)
- Opera won't be able to support WebM on mobile with Opera mini and gstreamer, because gstreamer cannot be statically linked for lgpl
- Mozilla is planning WebM support on mobile with Fennec
How can WebM
get supported on Windows?
- oggcodecs DirectShow? filters for IE8?
- for IE9? we need media foundation implementation
- for Virtualdub, we would need Video For Windows support, but that's old and we should recommend such users to move to AviDemux?
- use Miro, VLC converter, or Firefogg for transcoding, e.g. of Windows MovieMaker? output
- it would be possible to provide a AdobePremiere?/Vegas plugin - somebody should write something like this
- somebody should implement a SilverLight?
WebM
decoder
Where is Adobe support for WebM
?
- Adobe are keen to support
WebM
, but seem to not have gotten around to it WebM
in Flash is probably a precursor for getting YouTube? to support onlyWebM
- somebody should talk to Mike Melansen :-)
How can we get WebM
support on mobile?
- currently, vendors are working on HW decoding, which should be out soon
- HW encoding may take some longer
- unfortunately,
WebM
on Android without HW support is very slow - with a SilverLight? decoder,
WebM
would work on Windows Mobile 7
How can we get better WebM
advocacy?
- the webm website doesn't even have a embedded webm video!
- we could consider creating a "playwebm" movement - maybe talk to FSF
- we should provide a good web page that explains what tools to use for what and what is best practice
- people should write many RFPs? for how to stream TV and other things
WebM
Public Access TV as an application opportunities for WebM
?
- Public Access TV providers want to go online
- we should provide a brochure or website to explain "how to get your public access TV on the Internet"
- should include live and on-demand
- we should find somebody in public access TV as a trial user that will take the step and be a reference
- maybe democracy now has some ideas
How can we do live streaming with WebM
?
- Flumotion - make it easier to user
- VLC - fix the bugs
- somebody needs to implement it in icecast
- maybe we can solve adaptive HTTP streaming with chunked playback in browsers and then it's as simple as continuing to upload chunks to an ftp server and update the manifest
- we need a simple program on windows that gets started and just streams live, e.g. webm_live_streamer.exe